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I have a 1996 Johnson 200 that for the past few months that I have owned it has run great, until last week when it crapped the bed.
Original symptoms were as follows-
Charging at idle-13-14v
Charging WOT 16+
Tach doesn't work(brand new and set properly and wired to factory engine harness)
Idled fine, died out after shifting into gear
If choked out I could get it going and WOT wasn't an issue
Talked to a buddy and had him rebuild the carbs thinking that was the issue aside from the charging. When he did so he found that they were pretty dirty and gummed up.
Took the boat to the ramp to test it out. No better luck, actually I think it got worse. Took it back to him and he realized it was only working on the port bank. Disabled the shift interrupter switch and that brought both sides to life.
I brought it back to the ramp thinking it was good to go so we went out. Made it away from the ramp and started having issues. Couldn't get above idle in gear without the choke but that quickly went away once it was warmed up. I stayed near the dock incase it didn't work but not too close since it was slammed packed.
Took off and went for a ride, didn't get far maybe a mile or so and while at 3/4 throttle the rpms dropped down, thinking maybe I bumped the controls I bumped them up and it picked up. Thinking that maybe there was an issue I headed back to the ramp for caution, good thing I did. I got to open water and decided to try neutral and shifting since I would have to do so at the dock and didn't want to find an issue there and would rather it in the open. As I backed out and almost to idle it shut off. I pulled the cover off and realized the motor was warmer than it had previously been. Talked to my buddy (2nd gen outboard shop owner btw) he suggested I tried a few things to get back and bring it in. As I was trying the things he suggested a guy pulled up and asked if I needed a tow, I didn't want to waste the chance so I stopped and had him take me in.
I brought it home and decided to mess with it myself. I found that I had water in the oil reserve tank. I removed all the water and primed the ball enough to clear it out of the VRO pump, same with the fuel side just to make sure there wasn't any water on either side. I replaced my plugs (which were brown) with new ones, and checked the entire motor over for anything else. I cranked the motor without the plugs in for several cycles just to make sure that I got oil back in and any water out.
Upon checking the motor over I noticed that two of the magnets weren't where they should be. I proceeded to remove the flywheel and found that all but two of the outside magnets had become unsecured. The inside ones were fine.
Now my questions-
Would the magnets cause the charging to be too high or will I have to replace the regulator/rectifier to remedy this?
Do the outside magnets have any affect of the timing or is that only the inside magnets?
Will fixing/replacing the flywheel remedy above mentioned symptoms?
I know I could wait and find out once I replace/repair the flywheel but I thought I would get some insight while the moon is out and the shops are closed. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
BTW I have read several threads on here and other sites and have learned a lot about similar issues but I always get yelled at for commenting on an old thread and not starting a new one with my questions. So if this is poor form for this site I apologize.
Original symptoms were as follows-
Charging at idle-13-14v
Charging WOT 16+
Tach doesn't work(brand new and set properly and wired to factory engine harness)
Idled fine, died out after shifting into gear
If choked out I could get it going and WOT wasn't an issue
Talked to a buddy and had him rebuild the carbs thinking that was the issue aside from the charging. When he did so he found that they were pretty dirty and gummed up.
Took the boat to the ramp to test it out. No better luck, actually I think it got worse. Took it back to him and he realized it was only working on the port bank. Disabled the shift interrupter switch and that brought both sides to life.
I brought it back to the ramp thinking it was good to go so we went out. Made it away from the ramp and started having issues. Couldn't get above idle in gear without the choke but that quickly went away once it was warmed up. I stayed near the dock incase it didn't work but not too close since it was slammed packed.
Took off and went for a ride, didn't get far maybe a mile or so and while at 3/4 throttle the rpms dropped down, thinking maybe I bumped the controls I bumped them up and it picked up. Thinking that maybe there was an issue I headed back to the ramp for caution, good thing I did. I got to open water and decided to try neutral and shifting since I would have to do so at the dock and didn't want to find an issue there and would rather it in the open. As I backed out and almost to idle it shut off. I pulled the cover off and realized the motor was warmer than it had previously been. Talked to my buddy (2nd gen outboard shop owner btw) he suggested I tried a few things to get back and bring it in. As I was trying the things he suggested a guy pulled up and asked if I needed a tow, I didn't want to waste the chance so I stopped and had him take me in.
I brought it home and decided to mess with it myself. I found that I had water in the oil reserve tank. I removed all the water and primed the ball enough to clear it out of the VRO pump, same with the fuel side just to make sure there wasn't any water on either side. I replaced my plugs (which were brown) with new ones, and checked the entire motor over for anything else. I cranked the motor without the plugs in for several cycles just to make sure that I got oil back in and any water out.
Upon checking the motor over I noticed that two of the magnets weren't where they should be. I proceeded to remove the flywheel and found that all but two of the outside magnets had become unsecured. The inside ones were fine.
Now my questions-
Would the magnets cause the charging to be too high or will I have to replace the regulator/rectifier to remedy this?
Do the outside magnets have any affect of the timing or is that only the inside magnets?
Will fixing/replacing the flywheel remedy above mentioned symptoms?
I know I could wait and find out once I replace/repair the flywheel but I thought I would get some insight while the moon is out and the shops are closed. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
BTW I have read several threads on here and other sites and have learned a lot about similar issues but I always get yelled at for commenting on an old thread and not starting a new one with my questions. So if this is poor form for this site I apologize.
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