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  • 1985 Johnson 70 Throttle Up Issue

    Hi,
    First, thank you for taking the time to read this post. I currently own a 1985 Boston Whaler 15ft with a Johnson Seahorse 70 long shaft. The motor idles great and runs great at WOT. However, between 1800-2200RPM when trying to get onto a plane it seems to have a delay in throttling up. Here is a video that might help (https://youtu.be/FYatYUTQ12g). In the video I hold the throttle steady at 2000RPM it almost sounds like it has a miss after 3 seconds I open the throttle to max. Once the motor gets past the delay it runs great, the best I can describe it would be a dead spot in the throttle. I did turn off the motor when it was doing this and checked the spark advance and it was fully advanced. I have tried hitting the primer when this happens and the engine then wants to stall. I have also pumped the primer bulb and it does not seem to help. Below is some things I have done to the motor:

    *Cleaned all three carbs (ultrasonically) and blew out with compressed air. Rebuilt carbs but did NOT dip them in solvent overnight.
    *Replaced spark plugs using Champions (can't remember the exact make but they are the right ones)
    *Rebuilt fuel pump
    *Replaced all gas lines going to the carbs and primer/choke solenoid
    *Replaced rectifier (tach was not working)
    *Replaced gaskets on the airbox (both front and back)
    *When the carbs were off I checked the Reed valves none were bent or broken. Some carbs spit (top one esp.) a little gas out at idle but none at WOT all seem to have an equal amount of gas coming out of the center jet at WOT.
    *At WOT all throttle plates are horizontal and even with each other
    *Replaced head gasket (water was getting into the bottom cylinder) and thermostat
    *Compression from top to bottom is: 140, 135, 140 PSI
    *Performed a link and Sync on the water. It got some of the delay out but not all.
    *Ohm tested all of the coils I can't remember the exact reading but it was in spec (I think it was 600) and they were all very close to each other resistance wise (2-3 ohms)
    *Checked stator with ohm meter it was also within spec and the battery is charging
    *Replaced prop (13x19) with a new BRP Aluminum one with 13.25x15

    I did not check the trigger. I did unplug it and checked the connections all seemed fine no corrosion. The Power Pack seems to be the original one but not sure and I do not know how to test it. It has the brown silicon backing on it.

    Any help would be MUCH appreciated.

    --Ben

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    You might check to see if electrical by securely tying boat to dock, or on trailer backed into water, if secure. Put in forward, just till you get to where it misses, attach a timing light to each plug wire to see if timing light shows the skip.
    If all plugs seem to flash the timing light without a skip, at the time when motor skips, it may still be fuel related.
    You also mentioned top carb spits fuel at idle? Any chance you might have a slight leak in top crank seal?
    Also, do these carbs have the intermediate jets? Do all carbs have identical jets? Some of the earlier models had two sizes of jets, for carbs to run evenly (if yes, any chance they got mixed up?). Are all idle jets set identically, by book (setup that way at factory).

    I also think there is a way to test trigger by timing light, I think I saw it when I googled testing trigger coil. I think you have to locate TDC on flywheel for each cylinder (white marker indicating 1,2,3), connect timing light to each cylinder, aim at marks on flywheel. If hitting even and steady at tdc for each cylinder, trigger is most likely good. If firing irradically, on any cylinder, when motor misfires then get it tested using a peak voltage tester with a dva adapter.

    Oh, it isn't impossible for new plugs to break down, if you locate a particular cylinder skipping, see if skip changes by swapping plugs.

    I'm not real familiar with your model motor, but was trying to feel out your problem, and some questions came to mind.

    Good luck, hope you find something. Post back if you do.
    Last edited by Solarman; 06-10-2015, 09:12 AM.

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